All Rights Reserved Underground interviews 2014 Brandon Harris: What got you into music?
KidCrusher: Being bored in primary school, I was really young when I started my first rap group with a friend.. back then I was inspired by gangster rap,, anything that said the word fuck, to piss off my parents and teachers haha... thats probably why i still over use the word... I like to dive into cencorship and expose it all. I was always being creative in class, never doing what I was meant to... making my own little projects... I had this twin cassette deck boom box at home that allowed me to play one cassette with a beat and record my voice and the other cassette at the same time,, really amature haha, I also used piano drum loops... this is way back in the day. Forgive me for never letting any of those cassettes see the light of day, they were frigggggggin horrible, but I had fun. When I upgraded to recording and making beats on PC, I was older and getting into metal music at the same time. I was trying to put together a metal band, which ended up as a cover band, doing slipknot, system of a down, drowning pool.. I never knew what my push for being an artist was, Its just always been there. at the same time I was trying to become a wrestler for a while, I spent about 4 years 100% committed into running my own backyard wrestling group, but after a lot of friendship fall outs, I ended up solo, bored, back to music. and it blew up after I took my first step into a real recording... guess all that time growing up was practice.. glad not many people had to hear it all until now haha.
Try to add myself to juggalo chat groups, gathering chats, family message bords all that shit. But this fab of new age ninjas is taking over the pages. No one talks about some fresh shit they found anymore. Once and a while someone promoting music but usually nothing worth the time listening to. Drama. So much drama and people getting kicked out left and right for thinking different and then getting blown up by 100 people saying your not a ninja. New age Ninjas…….
You go to these family pages and off the bat one of the first thing you'll see if thrusty girls. Not all I'm not saying all the girls on there are thirsty or even most but you well see the ones I'm talking about. Ever 5 minutes a new photo of her biting her hatchet charm or showing off her tat on her ankle. Playing add games left and right and the “fuck or throw her in the trunk” game. Posting photos naked then yelling at people for coming on her pic telling them to go get some water and shit. You'll see these girls in almost all the rooms doing the same thing. And don’t forget the famous “hey yall go to this guys (random fuck) profile and talk shit to him. Hes not real family!!!!” come now people. New age Ninjas…….
Little ass kids coming in these rooms and talking about how they need a boy friend or a girl friend. The worlds so wrong and no body understands them because there a ninja. I get it I have been there. I felt the hate but if you only focus on that shit or its all you talk about and post photos of yourself crying and shit you need help. We cant help you. If you are family your in and we can do all we can to help but if you got real real shit going down you need help. Made love to you but don’t use being a juggalo as a crutch for your problems then snap on people because no one cares your crying wolf. New age Ninjas………
Don’t get me wrong we all gotta grow up at some point and at one time we were all peaces of shit. But using juggalos name to make it ok to fuck shit up is wrong. If you fuck shit up and its what you do then rock on. But don’t use our name as you reason or to make your point. Were good people for the most part but people only notice the extreme ones. I'm OK with that it keeps us under the radar, there not looking for me there looking for that guy screaming mcl and old people. There's a time and place, and my time and place is when needed. Catch me at the gathering and ill whoop ya heart out with a 2 scoops of the poop soup cha whoop de whoop cheda boom boom. But at mcdonalds don’t scream at me when im with my family. Much love, whoop whoop, and good luck new age ninjas.
There is so much music on Youtube, that the tube is almost the new center for you and your music. With over 1 trillion songs, and trillions of post you tube is growing massively. Now owned by Google you tube has a maximum growth potential which it is meeting. In the world of music, this website is key today, only to barely compete with vevo. With some artist making well over $200,000 per video this site has a lucrative approach at bringing fan's to the table. A lot of you are wondering, what it is exactly that draws people to youtube? Why has the internet taken the reigns on the music industry? Well that answer is simple, trust, reach, growth. Each one of those foundation steps has been meet by youtube with their fans as well!
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Gathering of the Juggalos 2003 Nelson Ledges Quarry Park — Portage County, Ohio Key Acts: Bushwick Bill, Killah Priest, Dope
Violent J: When we went to the woods, there was never another problem again. Shaggy: No police, no problems, straight up. Violent J: There was no issues. 'Cause there was no bullies there. We hired security. And we told security, relax. Have fun. If you're in the front fucking row of the concert, if you don't like this shit, move and let somebody else on the staff work that position. Don't stand there mean-mugging everybody. Security's having fun. Shaggy: That changed the game. That changed the whole game. Violent J: Brother, that first year, being outdoors, was like coming home. It just was un-fucking-believable, man. It was like the key fit in the lock, finally. What the fuck were we thinking before? Trying to have this in a convention hall? There was a lake and there was an island in the center. It was like 1 a.m., whatever it was in the program, and it said "Burning Man at the lake." So, literally, thousands all around the lake. And then all of a sudden on the island, this ninja lights himself, full body on fire. He's a stunt guy, you know. And he's running round and round this little 30-foot island. Shaggy: Forever! It seemed like 40 minutes. Violent J: And then he dives in the water. That was such a psychopathic thing, that was so our shit.
Vanilla Ice actually jumped up onstage and tried to calm the situation.—Violent J
Gathering 2007; Photo courtesy of Psychopathic
Gathering of the Juggalos 2004 Nelson Ledges Quarry Park — Portage County, Ohio Key Acts: Ol' Dirty Bastard, Kurupt, Tech N9ne
Violent J: Ol' Dirty Bastard, he went up there, and that was towards the end of his life. I wanna tell you he schooled it, but it didn't go over very well. The problem was it was getting so big that we couldn't talk to everybody before they went up. Shaggy: This was still when the Gathering was way less known — before anybody went on, earlier in the day, we sit them down, explain everything, explain what the crowd will be chanting. I mean, nowadays we'll send out A Family Underground on DVD. Violent J: You know, they say "woop woop" and it sounds like "boo" if you don't know what the fuck it is. We're letting them know that's a call of love. So we talk to the groups and let them know what's up… I read [ODB's] book, called Digging for Dirt, and that was one of the last shows he did, that was like one of the last three he did. And he went up there and they didn't know where they were, they kept saying "Cleveland." "What's up, Cleveland?" And they'll let it slide once or twice but when it's going on all night, Juggalos start getting pissed. 'Cause they're not from Cleveland, they're from all over. People started throwing shit. It wasn't ODB that was pissing everybody off as much as it was his hype men. Vanilla Ice actually jumped up onstage and tried to calm the situation. Shaggy: We always put it in their contracts, too. If they feel they're in any kind of danger, get the fuck out of there. Not, "You gotta play 45 minutes or you ain't gettin' paid." We don't do shit like that.
Gathering 2004; Photo courtesy of Psychopathic
Gathering of the Juggalos 2005 Nelson Ledges Quarry Park — Portage County, Ohio Key Acts: 2 Live Crew, Powerman 5000, Mini KissViolent J:We left Nelson Ledges. Why did we leave? Because we got kicked out. You know, the pressure from the city. They would go down there, my brother and Alex [Abbiss, Psychopathic Records co-founder]. They'd go down there and battle with the city. I'm talking TV-style, the council, the people, they'd come back all amped-up, they were talking about how they would stand up and, "Citizens, this shit is outrageous!"
Shaggy: They just wouldn't have it no more. We don't want you guys in our city no more, we don't want you in our county.
Ying Yang Twins got booed off terrible. It was totally unfair, it was totally uncool. —Violent J
Gathering of the Juggalos 2006 Pataskala, Ohio Key Acts: Too $hort, Digital Underground, Drowning Pool
Violent J: We were booked at a racetrack. I believe it was in Michigan. We were booked at a sweet-ass racetrack. It was gonna be the ultimate Gathering. And they kicked us out two weeks before. Shaggy: Campgrounds are like convention centers. It's a circle of people and they talk. Violent J: Actually, what my brother told me, fucking people from Nelson Ledges contacted them. They contacted him and they were like, "Don't have it." They kicked us out. And so we found the muddy [location in Pataskala, Ohio]. It was a drought all summer, and then it just poured. It fucking poured rain all before. Shaggy: It wasn't just one hill like at Woodstock with people sliding on it. The whole fucking however many acres was flooded. They had to try to put all this hay down but it was just sticking into the mud Violent J: They tried to put hay down, they tried to put gravel down, they tried to put all kinds of shit. We had trucks coming in with gravel. Everything we could do. It was like insanely hot. Like sweltering hot. So motherfuckers were just in the muddy heat, you know. And I'm not gonna lie, it killed my spirits. But Juggalos were still having fun. The hot sun dried up all the mud, and it was dust. Shaggy: You couldn't follow another car because you'd just fuck your eyes up and your lungs just with dirt. Violent J: That was the only year in my opinion that has a black eye on it. I couldn't even walk to the Port-a-potty.
Gathering 2010; Photo by Daniel Cronin
Gathering of the Juggalos 2007 Hogrock Campgrounds — Cave-in-Rock, IL Key Acts: Ying Yang Twins, Mushroomhead, Necro
Violent J: Somehow, Billy [Bill, Psychopathic Records CEO] discovered Hogrock, and the guy was mad cool. He's even like part of our shit, now, the guy, Hog Daddy. We have him do part of our wrestling and stuff. Nelson Ledges contacted Hogrock to try to get it shut out of there too. Hogrock was like, "Fuck you, we have festivals all the time." They have a biker festival, so they're not worried. Shaggy: After the year before, it was just such a relief. The added room. Even till this day, if I go out on my golf cart, I still get lost. Like, dawg, get the fucking map out, where are we going? Violent J: It's really big, and the thing is, it's a lot better now than it was when we first moved in there. Because they started putting roads in there, they started doing things for us, all year, to get us to come back. They were so good to us, they were like, we don't give a fuck about the controversy, you guys are the shit. Shaggy: And it's private grounds, not even police allowed on it for shit. Violent J: And they're just like working with us. We're even gonna eventually put up a cell phone tower, know what I'm sayin'? I think that might have been a little bit of an issue the first year, like how it was so… Shaggy: …in the middle of nothing. No phones. Violent J: Ying Yang Twins got booed off terrible. It was totally unfair, it was totally uncool. They didn't deserve it. They did their homework, too, but they went on right before ICP and people just weren't having it. I don't know what was wrong with people. I hated that that happened, because they were so cool. And then when they got off, they said to us, "Tell the clowns it's all love, we understand, it's all love, man."
Gathering 2007; Photo courtesy of Psych
Shaggy: In my opinion, I think all that shit, his being crazy and shit, I think it was gimmicked-out. Just talking to him, he's a normal motherfucker. He wasn't talking about tiger blood and shit. Violent J: Or maybe he was different when he was getting all fucked-up. But he was just chilling. Busta Rhymes wouldn't come out, you know, wouldn't get on the stage for a while. He was scared, he was nervous. And when he got up there, and got the reaction he got, he was so relieved that he just had a blast. He was like, "I don't give a fuck what people say, I represent you motherfuckers now, the Juggalos, I represent you." He was so relieved. Shaggy: After we were done doing our show, we were just wildin' out around on the golf carts doing donuts in the grass. I hit gravel, and my foot got stuck under it. It basically mangled my fucking foot down to the bone. It had gravel up in there. I flew home, and on the plane there was a puddle of blood in the bottom of my shoe. I just had to tough it out. When I got home, I finally went to the hospital, and they kept me in there for a week cause they couldn't find what strain of bacteria was in there. [They] had to fucking dig my skin down to the bone and put a fucking skin graft. If I'm not gonna get hurt at the Gathering, it's weird.
Gathering 2010; Photo by Daniel Cronin
Gathering of the Juggalos 2012 Hogrock Campgrounds — Cave-in-Rock, IL Key Acts: Geto Boys, the Game, DMX, Raekwon, Master P, Cheech & Chong
Shaggy: [Getting the Geto Boys back together] that's like a dream come true, man. Violent J: First we got them on the album. We reached out to Willie D, we heard he got out of jail. He did a song, real quick. Laced it and sent it back. We got all three of the Geto Boys on track. We're the first ones in history. We just flat out called all three, how do you guys feel about playing the Gathering? They gave their price. It's the first time they did a concert together in, like, seven years. Where else do we go? Shaggy: How else could you top it? For us to top that for ourselves, it'd have to be, like, N.W.A reunion. Or fucking Michael Jackson hologram.
Insane Clown Posse walk us through 13 years of blood, mud, and mayhem
In 13 muddy, manic years, the annual Gathering of the Juggalos has grown from a modest, Faygo-drenched fan fiesta soaking the Novi Michigan Expo Center to what might be the greatest rap festival in America hidden in the middle of the Illinois woods. Beyond its usual stable of horrorgore merchants and wicked shit, this year's festival, returning to its secluded homebase of Cave-in-Rock, boasts a Geto Boys reunion, the Game, Raekwon, DMX, Master P, the Pharcyde, the Fat Boys, Rahzel, Biz Markie, Danny Brown, Rittz, Lil Jon, and Kool Keith — not to mention puff-puff-pass pioneers Cheech & Chong and contemporary hip-hop muse Ric Flair.
In fact, the reason that this festival maintains its unique, whimsical, ATP-in-facepaint feel is that no fan ofanyband is more dedicated than Insane Clown Posse members and Gathering curators Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J, who always power-load the bill with their favorite '90s rap icons, old-school wrestlers, comedians, misunderstood media icons, and Michael Jackson impersonators. You can bet that Metallica and Jay-Z throwing their own festivals this year took more than a little inspiration from this particular carnival of carnage. To get here, they had to survive years of City Hall protests, tear gas, flash floods, infected legs, a pissed-off Bubba Sparxxx, and one punched police horse. For the first time anywhere, here's the story of all 13 Gatherings, straight from the clowns' mouths.While the performance fees of the headliners have changed, the Insane Clown Posse's dedication to their fans hasn't. "I want nobody to think we were making money," says the duo's Shaggy 2 Dope. "We were losing big every time. We lose however many, tens of thousands, but that's our gift back to the Juggalos. It's a thank you. A fucking big-ass party."
Gathering 2004; Photo courtesy of Psychopathic
They're a convention center, they're used to collectible baseball cards or something. Next thing you know, they're dealing with pure lunacy.—Violent J
Gathering of the Juggalos 2000 Novi Expo Center — Novi, Michigan Key Acts: Insane Clown Posse, Kottonmouth Kings, Twiztid
Shaggy: The first one, we really didn't have no idea what we were doing. Violent J: To be totally honest, my brother put it together. We were on tour. In the liner notes of The Amazing Jeckel Brothers, I believe we put something like, meet us here at this time on this day. We thought we'd do a concert. We changed it to the convention center. You could go and take pictures on all our stage sets that we had used up until that point. Shaggy: We had a dunk tank where you could dunk a hillbilly. Violent J: I remember we did Howard Stern that morning. And when we flew back to Detroit, we saw Juggalos everywhere. We were like, "This is crazy." In the airport and in the freeway. On the way to the Expo Center. And we started to say, what is this? Look at those license plates! Those kids came from Delaware! Those kids came from fucking all over the place, and we just realized what we had put together. We're hearing about parties at all the hotels and Juggalos overtaking them. The big thing was some kid at Wendy's had "FUCK ICP" on his nametag or something and a bunch of Juggalos jumped over the counter and beat his ass. Shaggy: The stage got overran during our show Violent Violent J: They shut it down. It was a good 40 minutes into the set. But that happened all the time back then. That's how Juggalos wanted it. They love the lunacy of that, you know what I'm sayin'? At that first gathering, we learned the importance of our music to some people. Shaggy: We learned that people from all over America were willing to travel to one spot, to gather in one spot, to make the Gathering happen. Violent J: And that's really where it began, like, the "thank you" stories and the "you saved my life" stories, and "your music touched me." We always thought we were just the bad guys, you know, the N.W.A. Shaggy: That'll bring a tear to our eyes, you know? Violent J: We got kicked the fuck out of Novi. "You motherfuckers destroyed our fucking place!" Shaggy: All the businesses around were fucking pissed-off. Violent J: Businesses around were scared to death — destroyed hotels, the Faygo everywhere, not enough police, titties, ooh nudity, know what I'm sayin'? I remember all the wrestling fans got in a ring and it collapsed. That's some scary shit. Two hundred fans standing in a ring jump and the whole fucking thing goes off. Even the seminars ended with overrunning of the stage. And people just had no control. They're a convention center, they're used to collectible baseball cards or something. Next thing you know, they're dealing with pure lunacy.
Gathering 2007; Photo by Brad Troemel
Gathering of the Juggalos 2001 SeaGate Center — Toledo, Ohio Key Acts: Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, Vanilla Ice, the Suicide Machines
Shaggy: Toledo was awesome. We had a whole floor of the hotel that was connected to the [convention center] Violent J: We're in a giant hotel. We had however many stories, all Juggalos. There was madness. You could actually hear madness going on. The P.A. that went to all the rooms, I guess it's for a fire alarm or something. But Shaggy comes on. Here's exactly how it happened, I swear to God. First he said, "Yo, what's up, man, it's Shaggy 2 Dope." And you heard the pop, the crowd pop in the building! You felt the building! Shaggy: [Nobody knew] there was intercoms in the rooms neither. Violent J: And he's like, "Man they're gonna kick us the fuck out if y'all don't chill the fuck out, man." He's half-drunk, talking ghetto as fuck. There was one wedding going on there that weekend. That poor wedding! Just think if the honeymooners were in the suite and that shit came on. Shaggy: I forgot about that Violent J: On the last night, I had a charm on just like this. [Violent J holds up his Hatchet Man necklace]. I'm up on stage, they surround the stage, everywhere. I see this kid eyeballing my chain, you know? I swear to God, he's looking at my chain. I can see what he's thinking. So I took it off my neck and I put it in my pocket. I'm rapping, and I feel this kid's hand reach into my pocket and yank it out; and he dives off the front into the crowd. I fucking moved ninjas out of my way and I dove right out on top of him. And I got him on the floor, right on top of him, and I took my microphone, and I bashed his fucking head in with that microphone, man. Until his hand just opened, you know what I'm sayin'? And I'm bashing, I'm bashing, I'm bashing, and this other kid's going, "It ain't worth it, J, leave him alone, it ain't worth it." I look at my microphone, and the end of it was fucking flattened. The metal ball at the end of the mic was flat, bro. Like I smashed it on cement. So we're racing home, and I stop right at the Michigan/Toledo border at a gas station. And there's a pond right there. I was so scared I might have fucking did some serious damage that I took the top off the microphone and threw it in the pond. Shaggy: The hotel got fucking trashed; the convention center got trashed. Violent J: We got kicked out of Toledo. Banned from Toledo. We didn't even play Toledo for ten years after that. Shaggy: I guess it got a little out of control, somebody punched a police horse in the face or something like that. Spray paint, stickers, vandalized… Violent J: We were banned from Toledo, it was all in the papers there. It was all in the news there, like ICP is not coming back. Shaggy: They like to report that, but not the millions of dollars they get in revenue from all those people coming into their city.
The police were stopping titties. And that's what started the riot. —Violent J
Gathering of the Juggalos 2002 Peoria Civic Center — Peoria, Illinois Key Acts: Kittie, Bubba Sparxxx, Mack 10
Shaggy: [Toledo] was the beginning of the end of the convention centers. Basically, the convention centers all know each other, so word got around, and nobody wanted us at convention centers no more. We had to fucking bullshit our way into Peoria, saying that we'd banned all stickers and shit. Violent J: They let us in on a whim. The way I remember my brother telling us, they were losing money and they were hurting, and that's the only reason they let us in. We were getting ready to put out the sixth Joker card at this point. And we went into hiding for eight months, which means we didn't do any photos, any pictures, no interviews or nothing while we went to record Shangri-La. I lost all this weight. The first time anybody saw us was at the Gathering. And the first night was the night [Psychopathic Records "supergroup," featuring ICP, members of Twiztid, and Blaze Ya Dead Homie] Dark Lotus played. I went to jump off the stage into the crowd, to stagedive, and the fucking monitor rolled under my feet and I went down in between the stage and the barricade and I fucking cracked my wrist. And I fucking cracked something in my back. And this was the first night. I still had to wrestle every day, I just started eating Vicodins like they were fucking candy. I was just eating them bitches like cereal. And that's the notorious year Bubba Sparxxx got booed off. Shaggy: And accused us of setting him up. Violent J: Like, what the fuck would we pay you to come in for, to set you the fuck up? That's the most ridiculous shit ever. Like, we're gonna fuck Bubba Sparxxx in the ass? The problem was he went up on stage an hour late, and his DJ's up there, he kept saying "Are y'all ready for Bubba? You ready for Bubba? Y'all ain't ready for Bubba!" For like a half hour. By the time he came out, everybody's like, "Fuck you, man." And then he came stomping back, "You set me up!" Shaggy: Get the fuck out of here. Violent J: Like we'd bring you all the way out here to set you up? Fuck you. That was also the year that titties were flying left and right. And the police — see, that's the problem, you know — the police were like, no titties. I'm serious, I'm dead serious. Shaggy: How do you stop titties at a festival? Violent J: It's a fucking rock'n'roll concert, man, titties come out. The police were stopping titties, man. And that's what started the riot. The girl, she had her titties out, they grabbed the girl, and pulled her off dude's shoulders backwards, in front of everybody. People started booing and throwing shit. Next thing you know — teargas. And that's where the riot came in, over some fucking titties, man.
Nearly two weeks ago, Insane Clown Posse's independent label Psychopathic Records publicly announced a new location for the 15th annual Gathering of the Juggalos, a 300-acre place called Crybaby Campground in Kaiser, Missouri. Tickets went on sale last Friday; lodging options quickly sold out. "It's gonna be hopefully a really special place," Violent J toldJuggalo news site, Faygoluvers, about the festival's new home. "We've just got all of our fingers and toes and dicks crossed hoping everything is perfect man."
Unfortunately, crossed clown dicks couldn't prevent Missouri locals from protesting the five-day bacchanal of old-schoolrap-music-royaltyperformances, semi-professional wrestling matches, and carnival rides. After the APbroadcast the location change, a Republican State Senator got involved, neighbors started petitions against the event, and some residents apparently began to arm themselves in preparation for the "gang."
Then late yesterday, a Missouri ABC affiliate reported that the Gathering was entirely "canceled," a report that the horrorcore duo rushed to dispute on Twitter.
First of all, we at Psychopathic Records want to apologize to all the Juggalos as we announce that the owners of the campground that we have dubbed Harlequin Park in Kaiser, Missouri have decided to not allow the Gathering to take place on their property. This was a hard decision for the people of Harlequin Park and they did not make it lightly.
Before we get into the details of what happened, we want to assure everyone who bought tickets/passes/campsites that their money will be refunded in full. We plan to work day and night to refund every last ticket promptly so please bear with us.
We also want to add that the owners of the campground did not have a problem with the Gathering being held on their property and have mad love for all people, including Juggalos. We have been working with them to make sure this was going to be one of the greatest Gatherings ever and they have been nothing but supportive, kind hearted and open minded. They also fully understood what the Gathering was and were fully willing to welcome us with open arms (after all, this is the same spot that hosts a biker rally every year).
However, after we signed the contract and announced the location of the Gathering, some of the people that lived in the surrounding community began to raise hell. Not all of them, mind you, but enough to bring a lot of heat to the owners of the campground. Not only that, they also experienced a media blitz and their phones would not stop ringing. This was no doubt amplified because of the recent lawsuit filed against the FBI by Psychopathic Records and the ACLU for wrongly accusing the Juggalos of being a gang, as well as the reports of last year’s Gathering losing money. Some people in the community where the Gathering was to be held must have believed the nonsense because they kept saying a “gang” was coming to their town and we heard reports that some people were starting to arm themselves. Unbelievable!
Because of this, the owners of Harlequin Park were getting non-stop calls from angry neighbors and some even stopped by their property threatening to boycott their campground and even started a petition against them. It was just too much of an onslaught of negative energy coming at them for them to handle. They endured the unendurable and suffered the insufferable to the point that they couldn’t take it anymore and decided to pull the plug. We want to add that we at Psychopathic Records hold no resentment toward the people of the campground. They really tried to make this work but with threat of their business suffering long after we have left, it’s understandable why they chose to do what they did. There was no way to prepare for how much attention this was going to get and how negatively some people were going to react to the Gathering coming to their town.
So … we DO have a plan B. Since we first realized that things were shaky with the campground, we have been aggressively looking into other areas to hold the Gathering and have a couple places already lined up. Now we realize that for some the news of the Gathering being moved is going to be a major setback. It’s even sadder because the ticket sales this year have far surpassed those of the past several Gatherings. Apparently it was the right spot, the right time and the right mix of flavor because practically everyone and their momma was going to attend.
We are now hard at work to make sure there is a new location locked in soon and even as the forces that be continue to oppress us and try to thwart the Juggalo community at every turn … we will endure. Even as close-minded people threaten us and accuse us of being less than human and close the gates in our face … we will march through. Even as they try to keep us from gathering as we do each year for our epic family reunion and people cry and complain … we will prevail. It has always been the Juggalo way to never bow down to the oppressors and to continue on, no matter the obstacles we face. Bear with us a while longer and we will soon be announcing a home for this year’s Gathering of the Juggalos.
Again, we apologize to all Juggalos for any inconvenience this may have caused you and we will strive hard to make this right.
The FBI considers the fans of shticky rap group Insane Clown Posse to represent a threat on par with the Crips, Bloods, and Aryan Brotherhood, according to its annual report on gang activity.
You might think Insane Clown Posse’s people — known as the Juggalos — are just a group of face-painting teenagers who wonder how magnets work. Not so, says the FBI’s 2011 National Gang Threat Assessment. To the feds, Juggalos are a “loosely-organized hybrid gang” that are “forming more organized subsets and engaging in more gang-like criminal activity.”
Consult page 22 of the FBI’s brand-new annual report on gang activity nationwide. (.PDF) Listed in the same breath as street gangs with ties to murderous Mexican drug cartels is the Juggalo threat.
“Although recognized as a gang in only four states,” reports the FBI’s National Gang Intelligence Center,” many Juggalos subsets exhibit gang-like behavior and engage in criminal activity and violence.” It takes a footnote to disclose the connection to the Insane Clown Posse. Which would make rappers Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope the Kenneth “Supreme” McGriff or Tookie Williams of their nefarious Juggalo army.
An example of a Juggalo in the FBI report
Other gangs cited in the report, like the Haitian Boys Posse or the Custer Street Gang, are linked to homicides, gun running, and drug trafficking. Juggalo gang activity cited by the FBI cites is a notably lower caliber: thefts, hand-to-hand drug sales and felony assaults. The FBI has recently had difficulty distinguishing ordinary American Muslims from terrorists; now it appears it has a similar problem distinguishing teenage fads from criminal conspiracies.
“Social networking websites are a popular conveyance for Juggalo sub-culture to communicate and expand,” the FBI warns.
Worse, “Juggalos’ disorganization and lack of structure within their groups, coupled with their transient nature, makes it difficult to classify them and identify their members and migration patterns.”
Actually, all the feds would have to do is wait for an Insane Clown Posse tour to roll through town. That’s what Brian Raftery did last year for a WIRED profile of Juggalo Nation. His description of the Juggalo threat:
They tend to feel that they’ve been misunderstood outsiders their whole lives, whether for being overweight, looking weird, being poor, or even for just liking ICP in the first place. It’s a world where man boobs are on proud display, where long-hairs and pink-hairs mingle, where nobody makes fun of the fat kid toweling off near Lake Hepatitis. For them, the Gathering is a place they can be accepted, a feeling reinforced by the constant chants of the Juggalo credo “Fam-uh-LEE! Fam-uh-LEE!”
The FBI even cautions that the Juggalos are among 53 gangs “whose members have served in or are affiliated with the U.S. military.” My colleague Katie Drummond somehow neglected to report the Army’s policy on face paint in her recent story on military body modification.
Most problematically, since Juggalos evidently believe themselves to be badasses, an FBI report legitimizing their outlaw image will surely embolden them. A generation of teenagers will come to believe it is acceptable to spray each other with Midwestern-specific soda and devalue lyricism in hip hop.
Just came across this article called four ways to be a Juggalo. I thought it was a joke, but someone actually believes there Wikki will help convert young people. http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Juggalo
The term originated during a 1994 live performance by Insane Clown Posse. During the song "The Juggla", Violent J addressed the audience asJuggalos, and the positive response resulted in Bruce and Shaggy 2 Dope using the word thereafter to refer to themselves and their friends, family, and fans, including other Psychopathic Records artists.The fan-base boomed following the release of their third album, Riddle Box, in 1995, leading Insane Clown Posse to write the songs "What Is A Juggalo?" and "Down With The Clown" for their 1997 album The Great Milenko
Ingredients Cake Floured baking spray 12 oz (3 sticks) butter, softened 2 cups sugar 5 eggs, room temperature 1 1/2 teaspoons orange zest (peel) 2 teaspoons vanilla 1/2 cup pineapple (if fresh, top removed, rind and eyes removed, diced; if canned, drained and diced) 3 cups sifted flour 3/4 cup Faygo Pineapple Orange Coconut Sherbet 2 1/2 cups (20 oz) Faygo Orange, chilled 15 oz can sweetened coconut milk 1 quart (4 cups) reduced-fat milk Glaze 2 cups sifted confectioners’ sugar 1/4 cup water or Faygo Pineapple Garnish (Optional) 1/4 cup chopped fresh fruit Directions For cake: Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Spray a 10 cup Bundt pan with floured baking spray; set aside. In a large mixer bowl, cream together the softened butter and sugar until fluffy. Using a rubber scraper, scrape down the sides of the bowl occasionally. Add the eggs one at a time, beating after each addition. Add the orange zest, vanilla, diced pineapple and flour. Beat for 1 1/2 minutes. Fold in Faygo Pineapple, carefully, in thirds. Spoon batter into the Bundt pan. Bake for 45 to 55 minutes if using canned pineapple and 60 to 70 minutes if using fresh pineapple. To test for doneness, insert a cake tester or a skewer into the cake; it should come out clean. Remove from the oven and place Bundt pan on a rack for 10 minutes, then invert pan and turn cake out onto cooling rack. Let cake cool completely before glazing. For sherbet: In a large bowl, mix together chilled Faygo Orange, sweetened coconut milk and reduced-fat milk. Pour mixture into ice cream freezer and make according to freezer directions* To glaze cake: In a medium bowl, mix together the confections’ sugar and the water or Faygo Pineapple until it is lump free. While cake is still on the cooling rack, place a second tray or wax paper below the rack; this will catch excess glaze. Drizzle glaze over the cooled cake. Let glaze set until firm. Transfer to serving tray. Serve each slice of Pineapple Faygo Bundt Cake with a scoop of Orange Coconut Sherbet. If desired, garnish with favorite fresh fruit. *If the volume of ingredients is too large for your ice cream freezer, work in batches. Guest Chef Jennifer Miller Corporate Pastry Chef for Matt Prentice Restaurant Group, Bingham Farms, Michigan (www.mattprentice.com
